| Hidden
Costs
Closing cost chart
Who can pay?
Prepaid Items
| The
law says Closing Costs are all the costs necessary for the
loan & the transfer of title from the Seller to the Buyer.
This means that Closing Costs are not necessarily just the
fees you pay when you sit down at the closing table. |
For
the most part, since these fees DO NOT originate
at the mortgage company level
they DO NOT VARY from company to company.
Closing Costs are fixed fees from third parties for
performing services such as: furnishing tax certificates, transfer/recording
fees to the county & state, doc prep fees, title insurance,
surveys, appraisals, etc.
They
come from 3 different sources:
Originating
Mortgage company
Secondary Market Mortgage Investor
& the Title company
Some
of these fees, like the appraisal, credit reports, etc. are usually
paid prior to closing and credited to you at closing.
HIDDEN
COSTS
(the unvarnished
truth)
People
are always worried about Hidden Cost sin a real
estate transaction and I can't say that I blame them. Title companies
tell us the average buyer gets to closing and is surprised with
about $2,000 more in closing costs than they were told. Since
it couldn't come at a worse time happenings like this lead to
horror stories that are oft repeated and soon the $2,000 grows
to $4,000 or even $5,000 in the telling.
With
stories like this circulating how could you not be worried about
hidden costs?
But
how can misteaks like this happen over and over again?
You would think Realtors & Mortgage companies
would eventually learn how much these closing costs really are.
So the first question we have to ask ourselves is "Are these
mistakes?" And the answer is a resounding "NO
- they are marketing techniques". Let me
explain.
I
know how much closing cost are, Realtors know how much closing
costs really are, every mortgage company in town knows how much
closing costs are. So if they all know the actual figures, why
not simply tell borrowers the correct figure?
Because
it is legal to fudge!
The
law says that Realtors/Mortgage companies can disclose as little
as $1,000 of the closing costs.
(and the law doesn't even mention the need to tell you about your
Prepaid Items which can be as much
or more than your closing costs)
OK,
so even tho the law doesn't require it, if everyone knows the
costs I still don't understand why they wouldn't disclose them.
Wouldn't it be simpler and wouldn't they have happier customers?
I agree with you and that is exactly what FINANCIER$
Mortgage does, but there is another aspect to this
issue.
| Since
mortgage companies all dip from the same (mostly) Fannie Mae/Freddie
Mac money well it means that rates don't really vary significantly
between mortgage companies. Since we all source the money
from the same source the difference between lenders isn't
rate, it's service! |
On
a given day if 5 different mortgage companies had your loan completely
processed and ready to lock & submit, all companies would
quote you the exact same rate!
Any subtle rate differences would have more to do
with the time of day the loan was locked or whether the lender
had done a good job processing, if your situation was fully researched,
documented and completely ready for presentation to the Underwriter
than anything else. So the problem for a Realtor/Mortgage company
becomes, if everybody's rates are the same how do we attract a
borrower's attention and appear unique?
Lets
face it, claiming to have lower closing costs is a good way to
get your attention!
Mortgages
can be complex and confusing so closing costs are one of
the factors potential borrowers most clearly understand and focus
on. "Understating"
the closing cost figures is an easy way for
a Realtor/Mortgage company to entice you to do business with them.
As long as this practice generates business, companies will continue
to understate.
Companies that do this are not doing anything illegal, but they
are being less than totally ethical & honest with you. When
faced with this situation, the question you must ask yourself
is "What else are they being less than totally honest about
with me?"
Your
only defense is a good education.
There
really is no downside to a Realtor/Mortgage company understating
costs. . . .
unless Buyers get mad enough to quit doing business
with them why shouldn't they understate?
Once you are at the closing table the Realtors/Mortgage companies
know you won't let a little thing like $2,000 stand between you
and your new home. After all you've already sold your old house/given
notice at the apartment, moved your kids to a new school &
told all your friends about your new house - THEY KNOW YOU
WILL CLOSE!!
Let
me explain closing costs to you so that you will know what to
look for.
If you understand closing costs you will be able to spot the "understaters"
on the phone. Listen carefully and you will hear them make statements
like "OUR closing costs are only . . ." when
in fact YOUR total out of pocket costs will be much higher.
When
you look at the chart below you will see how the closing costs
could be broken down at least 3 different ways and, if stated
properly, people could underdisclose without actually lying and
you might not catch it. So ask people point blank "What
will MY TOTAL out of pocket costs be?"
And
yes, as you'll see by the chart below, costs do fluctuate slightly,
but only slightly.
For example, a special loan program might require
a review appraisal. An appraisal & survey on 10 acres in the
country costs more than a survey on a city lot - but you will
only find a $50 variance here and $25 there, not $2,000! You will
also see that costs come from 3 different sources - make sure
any closing cost quotes you get include costs from all 3 sources.
FINANCIER$
will be happy to tell you the total of ALL your closing costs,
We don't control them and except for the Origination fee we don't
get a dime of them! Any closing costs that come thru us are Recovery
Costs, which means they are either for bills we have already paid
or will be getting billed for. Since I hate being yelled at when
I'm wrong it is easier to be honest.
| Closing
cost disclosures can be a good way to check the ethics of
any company you talk to. If they don't disclose ALL
costs, you have to wonder, what else will they conveniently
forget to tell me? |
If
you want to confirm closing cost estimates, talk to a Title company,
they'll tell you the truth.
Show them the estimates you have been given and ask
which is more accurate. The Title company loves for you to have
accurate figures because, since it is rare for a Realtor (and
unheard of for a mortgage company) to attend closing they are
the ones left holding the bag and dealing with the screaming Buyers
and Sellers.
FINANCIER$
loan officers are required to give you as accurate figures as
they can and we attend every closing possible
- just one more way we stand out from the crowd.
While
we are at the closing we check the closing statement for accuracy
and make sure you understand the closing process and the paperwork.
Our presence also puts us right on the firing line if we made
a mistakes - so we strive for accuracy.
| Call
us and we will give you as accurate an estimate of your total
move-in , including prepaids, as we can. We believe in full
disclosure and feel we have done something wrong if we are
more than $200 off. Most of our people end up bringing
LESS money to closing than we told them. |
Below
is a list of the fees for a typical house, in a subdivision, in
the DFW area:
(note where the charges originate)
| FINANCIER$ |
|
| Loan
Origination Fee |
1%
of loan |
| Appraisal
Fee P(aid) O(utside) C(losing) |
$325 |
| Credit
Report P.O.C. |
$70 |
| Mortgage
Broker Compensation |
not
paid by you |
SECONDARY MORTGAGE INVESTOR |
|
| Loan
Discount Points |
dependent
upon rate |
| Processing
Fee/Admin |
$225
- $350 |
| Tax
Service |
$75
- $125 |
| Underwriting
Fee/Admin |
$100
- $350 |
| Flood
Certification |
$18
- $35 |
| Document
Preparation |
$75
- $125 |
| Attorney
Fees |
$175
- $250 |
| Termite
Certificate |
$75
- $125 |
| TITLE
COMPANY |
|
| Title
Insurance |
$175 |
| Escrow
Fee |
$80
- $150 |
| Tax
Certificates |
$36
- $55 |
| Transfer
of Lien |
$45 |
| Recording
Fees |
$35 |
| Survey |
$225
- $275 |
| Courier
|
$50
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The
law says if I break out the costs, as I did in the example above,
I must give you the cost range of each individual item. BUT
when I total these figures I am allowed to ignore this price range
and give you a accurate figures if I know them. So ignore the
dollar figures in each box and look at the totals I have furnished
below.
We
poll area title companies monthly and have found that Buyer's
closing costs
in the D/FW area
on a 30 year fixed, Conforming loan ($417,000 or less)
run
approximately $2,200 + 1% of the loan + any points + your prepaid
items.
So
for a $100,000 loan the costs would be:
$2,200 + 1% loan origination fee ($1,000) + Points (usually
$0) = $3,200
Don't forget you will also have to pay your Prepaids (taxes,
insurance and interest). Unfortunately we cannot be so accurate
on prepaid costs. It depends upon what day of the month you
close, taxes on the property and how diligently you shop for
insurance*. When it doubt we try to over-disclose which is why
most of our customers need less money at closing than we've
told them.
*FYI:
The state DOES NOT set the insurance rates so you CAN
get lower insurance rates. If we are doing your loan we'll tell
you how.
(For
more information on points see Reading
& Controlling Rates)
VA
closing costs are about $900 lower for the borrower.
Does that mean VA is cheaper? NO, the costs still
exist, some have just been shifted to the Seller's side. This
means that either the Seller nets less on a VA sale or, more likely,
they sell it to you at a higher price than if you had bought the
house using any another type of mortgage.
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Don't
worry, I haven't forgotten about your Prepaid costs, I have just
saved them for the next page.
CAN
THE SELLER PAY MY CLOSING COSTS?
A
commonly asked question is How much of the closing costs may
the Seller pay for me?
Before you trod too far down that path you have to
understand that Sellers have closing costs also. Many Buyers think
that only the Buyer has closing costs but, the Sellers costs are
almost as much as the Buyer's costs and Sellers costs will
be much more if there is a Realtor's commission involved!
So some Sellers may be reluctant to pay your closing costs unless
you approach them properly.
Now
back to your question, all loan types have some sort of minimum
out of pocket expenses required of the Buyer. They want you to
have enough of your own money invested into the house so that
you are not likely to walk away if the going gets tough. So this
means the Seller can't pay all of your costs, but he can pay some.
The
normal Seller contribution limits (including points) on a Conventional
loan are 3% of the sales price on 97% & 95% loans and 6% on
all others. The Seller may NEVER pay any of your PREPAID items
except for Mortgage Insurance. Even if the Seller pays all your
closing costs you will still have to come out of pocket for the
downpayment and prepaid items.
3%
of the sales price will usually cover all your closing costs and
6% is enough money to also pay several points to lower your interest
rate.
| If
you will look back to the page on Reading and Controlling
Rates you will see that sometimes the Lender can pay your
closing costs! For instance any loan that has no Origination
fee is a lender paying part of your closing costs. There is
no such thing as a no closing cost loan, there are only loans
were the fees are paid another way. |
The
seller can pay all of your costs on a VA loan. But
that usually means a much higher sales price.
FHA's
formula for downpayment ensures that the seller is never actually
paying any of your closing costs.
Remember this when you are talking to builder! Because
of the way the downpayment formula is figured, it can be stated
that the Seller is paying your costs, but what is actually happening
is that for every dime the Seller pays of your closing costs your
downpayment has been raised a dime!

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